Cue button 'lag'
Cue button 'lag' Posted on: 21.05.2011 by Shelia Salzsieder Hi, I'm getting weird lag with the cue buttons on the traktor s4, e.g. if I press a cue button sometimes it takes 1 second to actually play and sometimes I press the button and the cue point doesn't play! it also happens on my X1 but not so frequently, my cpu is at very low so it's not that. It's very laggy.Also, if a deck isn't playing, and for example I hold cue button 1 and then press 2 and let go of 1, the track stops playing?! Why is this? I can't jump between cue points now. | |
| Griselda Vojtko 10.02.2014 | I am sorry to post in such an old thread but i came here cause i am experiencing same issues as the OP. It's clear that when in the s4 preferences we set sample buttons to 5-8 cue point something is not set as it should and this cause the "hitting a cue point when another is pressed stops the track" problem. I am totally sure that this is NI's fault simply because with some custom mapping this problem can be solved. So when we change that setting what happen under the hood is that Traktor does not adjust the default mapping in the correct way. It leaves some kind of sample button behaviour and this is a shame. Luckily, as i said, some custom mapping can solve this! In fact it is really simple for those with some mapping experience. The only problem is that with this workaround we definitely loose the ability to trigger samples (but if you are looking to use those buttons for 5-8 cues it is likely that u don't care because, for example, you are using another controller for that just like me). So practically all you need to do is set 3 modifiers. Modifier 1 is triggered when the 2 shift buttons are pressed so it is a hold command mapped the same to the 2 shift but this MUST NOT OVERRIDE DEFAULT MAPPING otherwise you will lose the other shift button functions. Modifier 2 and 3 are triggered with the switch deck buttons A/C and B/D and also here you must not override default mapping. Now you can map the sample buttons to select, set & store cues 5-8 to deck A when modifier 1 is 0 and modifer 2 is 0, to deck C when modifier 1 is 0 and modifier 2 is 1 and to delete those cues when modifier 1 is 1 and 2 is 0 for deck A and 1 for deck C. The same goes for deck B and D using the modifier 1 and 3 in the same way. I can provide a ready to use mapping if anyone need it. Let me say again that is a shame that NI was not able to handle this in the proper way since the beginning and that has not fixed this cause there are complains about this since the controller came out.... |
| Lin Danek 31.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by DJWilliams
Rather a restrained reaction - maybe you need to be a little less so. |
| Dorcas Bassignani 24.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by DJWilliams
and turn all that unnecessary shit off. -------------------------------------------------------------- the sample button bit - which i'm bored of - when you look at the fact they're there for the sample decks originally, and how they work - 1 press > load 2 press > play 3 press > stop 4 press > play etc... til you use shift to unload and the fact that this needs modifiers to work like that on any other controller, something suggests that they send out 2 different signals that reset after the shift button is used. so i'm going to add all that up to small conflict that might have been overlooked somewhere. majority of average users aren't going to be juggling the cue points, so prob didn't get picked up. also i can't believe of any reason why you'd use them how you are in the vid anyway. not without hitting the play button somewhere in that chain to keep the deck playing. |
| Shelia Salzsieder 24.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by BradCee
The problem was evident the first time I went on my S4 so it hasn't 'broken' due to repeated 'bashing'.
Originally Posted by BradCee
Originally Posted by BradCee
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| Dorcas Bassignani 24.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by DJWilliams
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| Shelia Salzsieder 24.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by BradCee
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| Jona Penzenstadler 19.07.2013 | Next to the "Main" knob (where you adjust the main volume on the software) make sure the "Q" isn't highlighted! Then everything should work as usual. At least that was what fixed my "lag". |
| Ciera Roarke 07.12.2011 | this is pissing the snot out of me too. anyone got fix for this ? |
| Shelia Salzsieder 21.11.2011 | bump I have been using it OK but this issue still arises from time to time. I press a cue button and it doesn't respond. It's because I'm not pressing the button in the right place and applying enough pressure, but it really, really shouldn't matter. When I'm freestyling it happens a lot as I tend to press the buttons quickly. If I was playing at a gig and this happened it would really p*** me off |
| Shelia Salzsieder 01.06.2011 | I have an intel i7 processor in my laptop. I'm sure it's a design fault anyway. What can I do about it though? NI aren't going to fix everyone's buttons are they. |
| Stanford Burgy 01.06.2011 | http://www.native-instruments.com/fo...amd+s4+problem http://www.native-instruments.com/fo...d.php?t=123871 |
| Dorcas Bassignani 01.06.2011 | *drumroll* |
| Stanford Burgy 01.06.2011 | Hi, I'm sure I've read something about s4 and amd processors having a problem on the NI community . What processor do you have? |
| Shelia Salzsieder 31.05.2011 | It's a BIG BIG problem and I'm surprised that there isn't more people complaining about it. I don't 'bash' my buttons every time and even when I press them slowly they sometimes don't respond. |
| Lin Danek 31.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by DJWilliams
Rather a restrained reaction - maybe you need to be a little less so. |
| Shelia Salzsieder 31.05.2011 | Seems like it's a design fault.... great. |
| Lin Danek 29.05.2011 | Hey DJW - any luck? |
| Shelia Salzsieder 24.05.2011 | I would want to use the sample deck buttons like I did in the video without pressing play, certainly. Pressing another one whilst holding one means the transition is instant, instead of letting go and pressing another one quickly, and you know what happens when I do that, I just get little clicks. Thanks for your help. I have an i7 processor so I don't believe a little bit of extra workload on the cpu will matter much, in traktor the cpu bar is always tiny, I'll try your suggestions though and disable all unnecessary processes to see if that helps. |
| Dorcas Bassignani 24.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by DJWilliams
and turn all that unnecessary shit off. -------------------------------------------------------------- the sample button bit - which i'm bored of - when you look at the fact they're there for the sample decks originally, and how they work - 1 press > load 2 press > play 3 press > stop 4 press > play etc... til you use shift to unload and the fact that this needs modifiers to work like that on any other controller, something suggests that they send out 2 different signals that reset after the shift button is used. so i'm going to add all that up to small conflict that might have been overlooked somewhere. majority of average users aren't going to be juggling the cue points, so prob didn't get picked up. also i can't believe of any reason why you'd use them how you are in the vid anyway. not without hitting the play button somewhere in that chain to keep the deck playing. |
| Shelia Salzsieder 24.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by BradCee
The problem was evident the first time I went on my S4 so it hasn't 'broken' due to repeated 'bashing'.
Originally Posted by BradCee
Originally Posted by BradCee
Thanks |
| Dorcas Bassignani 24.05.2011 | rewatched vid; Cue buttons not responding when pressed. have you always beat the shit out of them like that? Sample deck buttons remapped as cue points 5-8 don't work if you press one then another in quick succession AND if you hold one then another and let go of the first one you pressed the track stops. going back to what i said about the play toggle/cup stuff. when you press the first one it starts the deck, this button has now become the control over play/stop. moving to the next one will jump to other cue point, but the first button is still in control of play/stop. to change this you have to press the play button before releasing the first button you pressed, as toggles to full play instead of CUP. Hold any of these down and look at the screen, CUP/CUE will be lit, but play won't Lag where the audio doesn't play straight away when the cue button is pressed increase latency. where was it when problem started? where is it set now? have you tried both increase and decrease? what other devices are running? e.g network cards, webcams |
| Shelia Salzsieder 24.05.2011 | I have uninstalled traktor 2, installed traktor s4 and then reinstalled tpro2 and im still having the problems. |
| Dorcas Bassignani 24.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by DJWilliams
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| Shelia Salzsieder 24.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by BradCee
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| Dorcas Bassignani 24.05.2011 | the 'pressing 2 buttons stops the deck' thing; as the cue buttons are essentially toggling the play function, if you're holding one, then press another the deck will stop. cos you toggled play - albeit as part of CUP as for the lag; have you tried increasing latency instead of decreasing? make the processor work less hard, might get a better response. |
| Shelia Salzsieder 24.05.2011 | Surely it can't be a fault with every single S4?! |
| Dorcas Bassignani 24.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by DJWilliams
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| Shelia Salzsieder 24.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by schaap
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| Cameron Galante 24.05.2011 | Same problem here, in the Traktor S4 version and Traktor 2.. Have been experiencing this problem from the moment I received my S4. I know 3 people who also own a S4, and they all have this 'problem'. I've tried all the things described in this thread, nothing helps. |
| Shelia Salzsieder 24.05.2011 | I'm tearing my hair out here, I just want to be able to use my S4! I'm believeing it's something to do with the settings or mapping but how would that be the case when I haven't changed anything? |
| Shelia Salzsieder 23.05.2011 | I've posted 2 threads on the NI community s and still no reply. I don't believe it's a hardware failure with my S4 as it seems like an issue that would be present in all of them, the problem where if you press the buttons a certain way they dont work. |
| Lin Danek 23.05.2011 | I'm stumped DJW. Also on PC - but no issues. I believe you are right w.r.t. to the 'instant' function applying to CUP. |
| Shelia Salzsieder 23.05.2011 | I didn't plug my s4 in until tp2 was installed. My question is, do other s4 owners have the problem shown in my video or is it just me? |
| Kristen Bastron 22.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by DJWilliams
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| Shelia Salzsieder 22.05.2011 | Please read all of the posts in this thread, I've already said that Im on PC. |
| Kristen Bastron 22.05.2011 | mac or pc? |
| Shelia Salzsieder 22.05.2011 |
Originally Posted by jabanayot
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| Kristen Bastron 22.05.2011 | whats the info on your computer and any other programs running, try turning off wifi see if that makes a difference. |
| Shelia Salzsieder 22.05.2011 | I've said already. Sync/Snap/Quant are all off. |
| Dorcas Bassignani 22.05.2011 | Is snap on? |
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