The Advantages of SYNC
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The Advantages of SYNC Posted on: 01.03.2013 by Jerica Salava There is a lot of people out there who look at the SYNC button as a negative aspect of DJing.I always tell DJ's who are starting out to learn to beatmatch by ear. It's extremely important. If you don't, the train wreck will rear it's ugly head and bite you in the ass. Not all tracks will SYNC and not all gigs will have SYNC. Before I used SYNC I would find myself concentrating on beatmatching and using most of my brain to avoid a trainwreck. Even though you are great at beatmatching and you believe it's on time, your brain is still "listening" for drift and your hands are ready to spring into corrective mode. Now that I use SYNC (I press it once to match the BPM and then pitch bend to find the best rhythm pocket), I find myself taking off my headphones with confidence and concentrating on the mix in the monitors. This let's me observe the crowd and fine tune my levels, frequencies, loops and effects without having to worry about drift so much. Just my observation. For those who still hate SYNC. The best analogy I could come up with is this: "It's like a chef looking down on you for using a food processor instead of your knife." > | |
Mirian Gaura 23.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by Ryan Ruel
Originally Posted by Ryan Ruel
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Lin Danek 21.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by sarasin
it's all about the JB's and the JT's - the children are taking over 'bru |
Lilliana Perris 20.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by JonathanBlake
1st it was Bieber references....now its N Sync? Yoh.....Haaibo....you aaare PAMBENI! |
Lin Danek 20.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by sarasin
'N Sync |
Lilliana Perris 14.03.2013 | 4 Deck Psy..... SYNC!!!!! 2527_490446251023082_1987584681_n.jpg 150466_490445797689794_998270059_n.jpg - Rockin out since TSP 1.2 - |
Lin Danek 07.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by padi_04
Spam doesn't translate well into anything other than irritation. |
Nedra Fresneda 06.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by kooper1980
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Kristofer Krauel 06.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by Victorst
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Sonja Roybal 05.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by sarasin
You don't like playing from A > B. That's cool. I do. What's your point? People who preplan their sets, kill dancefloors. Unless the crowd came to specifically see you, which they probably didn't, you better play to them and adapt. I have no problem with sync. Do whatever floats your boat. Like I said, I use it from time to time. Beatless intros are pretty common in drum and bass. If the grid on a tune is off, I'll grid it. The easiest way I've found to grid a tune is to use temposync, manually match the beats/phrases, move the grid over till the phrase bar lines up and hit "lock." What's wrong with that? Why am I not at the top? I never cared to be. I'm not that good. It's called a hobby. |
Mirian Gaura 23.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by Ryan Ruel
Originally Posted by Ryan Ruel
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Caleb Demillo 22.03.2013 | What is with all the people who are saying mixing track A into track B is "boring"? There is nothing wrong with going out and just enjoying a set of music carefully selected, programmed and mixed. And why so much argument about beatmatching? It's a basic DJ skill. Instead of defending sync up and down, learn both techniques and quietly ignore what everyone else believes. |
Mirian Gaura 22.03.2013 | I see is as a time saving tool, that's all. Its not even always 100% right... sometimes it can be off, way off.... *ghost in the machine* I use sync because its like a starting point, a preset and it gets you going but I always scan through the track in my headphones and look at the grid in Traktor. I believe (and its only my 10 cents!...) if you press sync and just mix one track after another its boring, but if you are creating effects, looping layers through decks C and D, or using the Kontrol F1, Pioneer RMX or Kaoss pad, etc then it's great. You can spend a bit more time teasing the track and enjoying the crowd, music and atmosphere. It's that little time saver. It's not much but it changes the 'virtual' tempo, puts you in the right place with a preloaded cue point and sits and waits.... It doesn't make you a better DJ. it doesn't decided what track is best to play next, it doesn't stop you from using too many effects. I learnt to beat mix on crappy old Sound Lab belt drive turntables and it was the best thing I ever did. The decks where shot to feck and I had to keep on top of the incoming deck every 16 - 32 bars. It took me a year to master it and it's like riding a bike. Once you learn it its something you don't forget in a hurry. I then went to the Manchester DJ academy and fine tuned my knowledge and picked up lots of tips - which really helped! Now, when using my S4 (only had it a few weeks to be fair) there have been a few new tracks that have not been in sync and I have happily altered them and done it manually. This is an age old topic that started when CDJ's firs came on the scene, now its happened again with controllers/laptops. It will happen again when something else takes over in a few years (god knows what it will be). It's great that people hate the sync button. But its great that people are also using it and developing really crazy, multi layered and on the fly re-edits, mash-ups and pushing the "controllerism" thing. None of us will ever agree which is better or worse because the methods are all good. |
Lilliana Perris 21.03.2013 | YOH.....iz old... HAHAHAHA |
Lin Danek 21.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by sarasin
it's all about the JB's and the JT's - the children are taking over 'bru |
Lilliana Perris 20.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by JonathanBlake
1st it was Bieber references....now its N Sync? Yoh.....Haaibo....you aaare PAMBENI! |
Lin Danek 20.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by sarasin
'N Sync |
Lilliana Perris 14.03.2013 | "Sync Hallelujah!" LOL |
Lisa Lochotzki 14.03.2013 | |
Lilliana Perris 14.03.2013 | 4 Deck Psy..... SYNC!!!!! 2527_490446251023082_1987584681_n.jpg 150466_490445797689794_998270059_n.jpg - Rockin out since TSP 1.2 - |
Rolanda Clodfelder 07.03.2013 |
Spam doesn't translate well into anything other than irritation.
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Lin Danek 07.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by padi_04
Spam doesn't translate well into anything other than irritation. |
Nedra Fresneda 06.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by kooper1980
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Kristofer Krauel 06.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by Victorst
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Lilliana Perris 06.03.2013 | I have a full time career too. This be my hobby as well. I never said anything was wrong with the above etc. Was just saying why I use Sync and how its helped me. I have been playing Fullon Psy for most of my DJ time and that too is very busy and complex. There is no way io can juggle tracks and go ape like I can with other genres. I have found what works for me there tho! 2 decks...harmonic mixing....3rd deck with a potent hat loop....4th deck loaded with some shot samples. Happy camper! Minimal Tech crossed over into Electro....is what I am talking about in my previous post. I can do all the stuff I described...with this style of music. I am not slating anyone or you bro....I am not pretending to be a turntablist either....by any means. I scratch at home!...for fun. A - B.... I find is the most basic way of DJing. I have moved on from it. How....with the help of Sync. Thats my point and that is all. No one said you were wrong.... I am outta here....shits getting twisted....as always. |
Sonja Roybal 05.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by sarasin
You don't like playing from A > B. That's cool. I do. What's your point? People who preplan their sets, kill dancefloors. Unless the crowd came to specifically see you, which they probably didn't, you better play to them and adapt. I have no problem with sync. Do whatever floats your boat. Like I said, I use it from time to time. Beatless intros are pretty common in drum and bass. If the grid on a tune is off, I'll grid it. The easiest way I've found to grid a tune is to use temposync, manually match the beats/phrases, move the grid over till the phrase bar lines up and hit "lock." What's wrong with that? Why am I not at the top? I never cared to be. I'm not that good. It's called a hobby. |
Tesha Freudenstein 05.03.2013 | thread delivered |
Lilliana Perris 05.03.2013 | Dude...be my guest. My soundcloud link is in my sig. Its really NOT THAT HARD. Clever Cue Point layout for jumping around the track structure and Sample Points for FluxMode....for instant samples. That ALONE....helps you to remix on the fly. Play the track and skip the break....add the 2nd tracks bits in there instead. Or cue past the break and use Fluxmode to spice it up by adding little sample jumps. Simple stuff mate.... You obviously should not do it constantly.... If I had to see a DJ scratch the ENTIRE set thru....its not cool. Overdo anything and it will sound like shit. Less is more...and THINK about what you want to do. I have found what works for me and it has made me 1000x better DJ than I was 3 years ago in terms of skills and abilities. When I hear people hating others video uploads saying its PISS etc...I have the same response as you did. SHOW ME YOUR VID FOOL!? Each DJ is different and find what works for them. I would rather see an intelligent DJ that knows what he is doing with the software and taking it to the max....with class. Look at Shiftee...Dubfire...etc....watch their vids and learn! It is not that hard to do what they do in terms of using the software to AID them. Sure....they have years of skills built up etc and that is what allows them to move beyond A - B mixing. 4 decks is not about playing 4 tracks at once. Its about using the 4 decks. Anyway you can. Look how Hawtin does it. Now take all of that....and put together the parts that you like. I am outta this thread...should not have gotten involved initially. |
Augustine Mitzen 05.03.2013 | i would like to see some of the sets you are talking about. all that intelligent eqing, 'remixing on the fly' and stuff |
Lilliana Perris 05.03.2013 | Oh agreed! You should never overdo anything. I was referring to DJ's who just fade the intro's and outro's or just do a standard transition at the end of a track. I believe the track needs to be played...and a journey made. I do what I do with class...not to overdo it. Also...I don't play commercial stuff with vocals etc. So not mashing anything like that. I mean remixing on the fly and mashing...etc. Not ONLY mashing.... |
Rolanda Clodfelder 05.03.2013 |
I cant STAND putting one track on after the next. That is a jukebox.....
I mash and play 3 decks. Keep it fresh and new ....ALL the time. ....yes most of my tracks are more than 7 minutes long. |
Xiomara Woolworth 05.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by balakoth
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Shawn Vanhaitsma 05.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by 3heads
But honestly, how did that retort even relate? I love music, but why go to a club to listen to the same thing iTunes can do for me? ::shrug:: Again to each their own. |
Celestine Porebski 05.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by balakoth
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Werner Bile 04.03.2013 | Have you noticed that regardless of the subject, all of Love Rocket's threads turn out pretty much the same. |
Lilliana Perris 04.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by balakoth
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Lilliana Perris 04.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by b1sh0p
Keep believing that bro.... |
Lilliana Perris 04.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by b1sh0p
Each DJ is different. I cant STAND putting one track on after the next. That is a jukebox..... I mash and play 3 decks. Keep it fresh and new ....ALL the time. But...that is me. |
Lilliana Perris 04.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by b1sh0p
really? With this knowledge...you should be at the top....whats happening? You say DJ's don't plan sets? Those are the ones playing open format and gigs that are not that important. EVERY professional DJ i know.....does prep. Whether its getting all his tunes together for this gig or making DJ tools etc. Playing one track after the other these days...is boring as SHIT. But hey....each to their own. You clearly KNOW what you talking about. |
Lilliana Perris 04.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by b1sh0p
LOL.....you view is so skewed and you are making up your mind with half the information. Sync is NOT there to help you match 2 songs. You can use it for that, but that is not why it is there. It is there, to allow you to take your mix to 4 decks. NOT 4 tracks playing at the same time...all the time. That is dumb. You use 4 decks creatively and this is where Sync comes in. Beatgridding is NOT just to have a tight sync...but to also help the software function to its fullest. This means having your FX synced to your beats. Ignorance......LOL. Keep doing it your way mate....it obviously is working for you perfectly. So why tell us and give away YOUR technique? Clearly its better that NI's idea's.... |
Lin Danek 04.03.2013 |
Originally Posted by Jester
Is that slunk in the past tense? |
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