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So... is this fixable or did I waste a lot of money on a Dell?
Posted on: 28.01.2011 by Iluminada Costakis
So, I'm on a new Dell Latitude E5410 Laptop, Pentium I7 2.8ghz, Win7HomePremium, 4gb Ram, with an Audio8, and a VCI-100SE, with the Newest TSI Mac Edition, on Traktor Scratch Pro, which is set at 5.5ms Latency. I've also already installed Str8UpDrews Midi Patch, but that hasn't helped...
My problem is that when I have a song playing in traktor, ever so often, randomly, the entire system just pauses for a split second, the sound stops, the waveforms stop scrolling, everything just kinda pauses for a second, then continues. This starts to happen when I'm just playing a single track on one side, not even starting to test the systems performance, although it does seem to happen a bit more when I'm doing more stuff like FX and using the faders, and its the same with Wavs or Mp3s. Also, I'm not running anything else on the laptop except TSP and the Midi Patch from Str8UpDrew. I've tried some stuff like updating the chipset and bios, but they're already the newest versions. I've got a gig in about a month and another in 2 months, and although they're far off, I'm already getting nervous imagining these gaps popping up during my sets! It's really unacceptable. So.... does anyone have any experience with this kind of thing? I'm believein of selling an organ to get a MBP (semi-joking).
Any help would be majorly appreciated! Thanks
Steeboh Savadelic
Iluminada Costakis
29.01.2011
Originally Posted by DennisHuiberts
Which version of the Audio 8 DJ driver are you using?
I'm using the one prior to the newest one.... I've thought about trying the newest one again now that I've made a vast improvement in stability, but not quite ready to do it yet, not sure if it makes a difference to anything....

I also just mixed some dubstep for a solid 45 minutes with NO PROBLEMS! No skips, cracks, pauses, nothing! I had gamebooster on, I am no longer using Str8UpDrews midi fix, I just have the VCI set as the controller on Midi In with nothing set to Midi Out (I read somewhere in the community s that that could help, too) and I have every piece of non-essential-for-traktor devices disabled, using the PC TSI..... with Audio 8 Djs old drivers, set at 3ms and 8ms latency. so with that last 45 minute mix being successful, I'm believein it might be.... I don't wanna say fixed but dealt with! Cross your fingers folks! I really appreciate all the input.
Leeanna Ayla
29.01.2011
Originally Posted by Dj Steeboh
I Do people who own a mac have to do this kind of computer disabling and adjusting?
Mac users for the most part don't have to do much tweaking.

Originally Posted by Dj Steeboh
Also, is this a universal issue with people who use Traktor on PCs?
The key word here is universal; PC's by nature are not universal, whereas Mac's are.
Franklin Momany
29.01.2011
Originally Posted by Dj Steeboh
By check for bad drivers do you mean using the latency checker and their method of randomly eliminating processes until the thing no longer shows a red bar?
Check for bad drivers?

Plug in your normal DJ stuff. Go to Start (lower left hand corner) and type in the search bar "Device Manager" and select it from the list. A new window will appear and look for any ! yellow triangle icons next the name of the device.

If there are any disable them or re install new drivers for that device.
Iluminada Costakis
29.01.2011
Originally Posted by Nales
do you have a Nvidia graphics card?
Nope, just standard Intel HD.
Iluminada Costakis
28.01.2011
So, I'm on a new Dell Latitude E5410 Laptop, Pentium I7 2.8ghz, Win7HomePremium, 4gb Ram, with an Audio8, and a VCI-100SE, with the Newest TSI Mac Edition, on Traktor Scratch Pro, which is set at 5.5ms Latency. I've also already installed Str8UpDrews Midi Patch, but that hasn't helped...
My problem is that when I have a song playing in traktor, ever so often, randomly, the entire system just pauses for a split second, the sound stops, the waveforms stop scrolling, everything just kinda pauses for a second, then continues. This starts to happen when I'm just playing a single track on one side, not even starting to test the systems performance, although it does seem to happen a bit more when I'm doing more stuff like FX and using the faders, and its the same with Wavs or Mp3s. Also, I'm not running anything else on the laptop except TSP and the Midi Patch from Str8UpDrew. I've tried some stuff like updating the chipset and bios, but they're already the newest versions. I've got a gig in about a month and another in 2 months, and although they're far off, I'm already getting nervous imagining these gaps popping up during my sets! It's really unacceptable. So.... does anyone have any experience with this kind of thing? I'm believein of selling an organ to get a MBP (semi-joking).
Any help would be majorly appreciated! Thanks
Steeboh Savadelic
Leeanna Ayla
02.02.2011
great!!
Iluminada Costakis
02.02.2011
So I now just turn off the wireless card, and use gamebooster, and it runs like a champ! Thanks everybody!
Ethelyn Vallelunga
01.02.2011
I've had this problem too on my Dell XPS 1530.
Turning off the NIC helped a lot.
Iluminada Costakis
29.01.2011
Originally Posted by DennisHuiberts
Which version of the Audio 8 DJ driver are you using?
I'm using the one prior to the newest one.... I've thought about trying the newest one again now that I've made a vast improvement in stability, but not quite ready to do it yet, not sure if it makes a difference to anything....

I also just mixed some dubstep for a solid 45 minutes with NO PROBLEMS! No skips, cracks, pauses, nothing! I had gamebooster on, I am no longer using Str8UpDrews midi fix, I just have the VCI set as the controller on Midi In with nothing set to Midi Out (I read somewhere in the community s that that could help, too) and I have every piece of non-essential-for-traktor devices disabled, using the PC TSI..... with Audio 8 Djs old drivers, set at 3ms and 8ms latency. so with that last 45 minute mix being successful, I'm believein it might be.... I don't wanna say fixed but dealt with! Cross your fingers folks! I really appreciate all the input.
Alexandra Nerby
29.01.2011
My pc did this, well "does" this when I forget to turn off my wireless. It searches to make sure I am still connected every 30 seconds or so, and would cause the same issues you are describing. Also, I had a automatic changing background which would also sometimes cause a hiccup.
Franklin Momany
29.01.2011
You could try your DJ gear on a friends laptop. Maybe you can try to cancel out what is causing the issue.
Neal Rayome
29.01.2011
Which version of the Audio 8 DJ driver are you using?
Leeanna Ayla
29.01.2011
Originally Posted by Dj Steeboh
I Do people who own a mac have to do this kind of computer disabling and adjusting?
Mac users for the most part don't have to do much tweaking.

Originally Posted by Dj Steeboh
Also, is this a universal issue with people who use Traktor on PCs?
The key word here is universal; PC's by nature are not universal, whereas Mac's are.
Iluminada Costakis
29.01.2011
I didn't see any "bad" drivers, so I tried some suggested disablings (from posts and articles on fixing audio dropouts in traktor) in device manager of the acpi battery, webcam, wireless card and adapter, and finally the dvd drive. After doing those, I ran traktor scratch pro with two tracks doing some simple beat juggling. It ran excellent for about 7-8 minutes, I thought it was totally fixed, then there it was again, a major pause in the whole system, both waveforms stopped a second, then just continued on again. I immediately closed the program, and noticed I wasn't running Gamebooster at the time, so I ran gamebooster, and gave it another shot, this time doing 4 tracks juggling and scratching while tweaking with the filter fx knob on my vci and the key control knob onscreen with the mouse scroll wheel, and it didn't seem to have any issues for about 5 minutes... so I just quit while I was ahead. I wasn't really ready to try to go the distance because if it doesn't work this time I'm not sure WHAT i'm going to do.... but it did seem like it was working again... this sure seems like a whole ton of trouble to go through just to get a program to run smoothly... Do people who own a mac have to do this kind of computer disabling and adjusting? Also, is this a universal issue with people who use Traktor on PCs?
Dede Strelka
29.01.2011
can you turn your wireless card off? I know my laptop had a handy shortcut to swicth it off, (before I got a mac) if not, just disable it in the network settings. I'm 99% sure that's your problem
Franklin Momany
29.01.2011
Originally Posted by Dj Steeboh
By check for bad drivers do you mean using the latency checker and their method of randomly eliminating processes until the thing no longer shows a red bar?
Check for bad drivers?

Plug in your normal DJ stuff. Go to Start (lower left hand corner) and type in the search bar "Device Manager" and select it from the list. A new window will appear and look for any ! yellow triangle icons next the name of the device.

If there are any disable them or re install new drivers for that device.
Iluminada Costakis
29.01.2011
Originally Posted by Nales
do you have a Nvidia graphics card?
Nope, just standard Intel HD.
Iluminada Costakis
29.01.2011
By check for bad drivers do you mean using the latency checker and their method of randomly eliminating processes until the thing no longer shows a red bar?
Nakisha Startup
29.01.2011
do you have a Nvidia graphics card?
Franklin Momany
29.01.2011
I don't understand how your problem could be midi Latency. I can't imagine how latency would affect software? More just controls in your case. I know you have overkill specs, but keep an eye on your CPU usage and check for bad drivers.
Iluminada Costakis
29.01.2011
ok, so I've got the Gamebooster goin, I've got Str8UpDrew's Midi Patch Send running, and I've got my latency still set at 3 and 8ms. It IS working WAY WAY WAY better than before.... however... I'm still getting tiny pauses every now and then, but now much, much less frequently, and much less noticeably... but I'm still noticing them clearly enough that I'm still nervous about gigging with this thing... will check back in soon, but in the meantime, any other advice would be majorly appreciated!
Iluminada Costakis
29.01.2011
I'm kinda in shock at the moment... because if this is working... oh man.... but yeah....
The Latency check showed I was having a single red spike every 30 seconds or so...
So I got the Game Booster, as well as the PC TSI rather than the MAC TSI, and with the Game Booster basically stopping every process it could except the NI Hardware Manager (just wasn't sure if it matters), it APPEARS (I'm way too excited to believe this is true) that everything is working good! I also adjusted my Latency to 3MS and 8MS (Using the older Audio8Dj Driver).... but at the moment.... I've mixed up some house music, with effects, loops, all the fun stuff, for about 5 minutes, and I never heard a single pause!!!!!! I'm planning on recording a mix toevening to really test her out.... THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Somer Vanstraten
28.01.2011
The tsi for Mac got leds feedback for fx unit, this things causes a lot of problem, like pop glitch and freezes.
Try the pc version, and If you got problem with it, try to delete feedbacks for some leds
(usually the changing led patterns for juggle mode 1-4 and 5-8)
Leeanna Ayla
29.01.2011
Try these

http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml
http://www.iobit.com/gamebooster.html

There may be something going on that you don't know about.

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