Jog wheel maintenance (+LED replacement)
Jog wheel maintenance (+LED replacement) Posted on: 09.10.2010 by Donovan Mandy So I just bought a vci-100 second hand (cheers, Jack Clark ) and I believe it need a little bit of maintenance.Here's a youtube video of the jog wheels http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40N-E1QH5EU The left jog wheel works fine, but the right one only seems to pick up when it's rotating about half of the time - it's not the touch sensitivity because the LED stays red. I know there was a video recently about repairing the jog wheels, but is there anything specific I should be looking for if I open it up? Also I'd quite like to replace the LED for the right headphone cue button, it doesn't work. Any ideas where I can buy a replacement LED in the UK, and brief instructions on how to replace it? | |
| Leeanna Ayla 20.10.2010 |
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
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| Tatum Ansaldo 20.10.2010 |
Originally Posted by photojojo
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| Leeanna Ayla 20.10.2010 |
Originally Posted by mistertuckshop
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| Angel Lehnen 13.04.2011 | If your jogwheel; a) is not sensitive (the contact stutter/blinking jog wheel LED) b) does not spin freely (jogwheel not properly aligned) b) stutter only at a certain location on the jogwheel when spun Then do this! http://www.djranking s.com/2010/10/0...l-vci-100-300/ usually it could be something as simple as a piece of dust on the sensor or some wiring blocking moving parts. When you open up your VCI100, you will realize how sensitive the jogwheel mechanism are. Just follow the instructions and you can not screw up. Sometimes, even brand new VCI100 need some kind of maintenance.. It'll perform better anyway and you get to learn the insides of it. Lastly, if your fader : a) is not sensitive (the fader contact stutters/ goes berserk) b) is not as smooth Then do this! http://www.djranking s.com/2010/08/1...ers-jog-wheel/ by performing these simple maintenance, I've managed to repair all the problems most of the time... actually, all the time.. so far.. |
| Jessika Kienast 13.04.2011 | I'm on firmware 1.3 and seem to have this problem where one (the left) jogwheel seems less sensitive than the other. Have played around with the sensitivity and thought it was the paint (mine's painted) but even after using sandpaper on the bottom of the metal plate, I still have the same problem. It seems to be working perfectly if my fingers happen to have contact with one of the three screws securing the metal plate and plastic disc to the jog wheel sensor's spindle though. Connection problem? My VCI-100 is still relatively new so I don't believe it's dust or worn out parts. |
| Angel Lehnen 09.04.2011 | fixed by cleaning jog wheel thoroughly. A very small piece of dust was stuck on the metal film. |
| Angel Lehnen 28.12.2010 | hi I'm having the same issue using 1.4 firmware with these symptoms -left jogwheel works fine, only right side stutters -right jogwheel works fine when scratch/vinyl mode is OFF -right jogwheel works fine when applying more pressure to touchplate hope there is a fix for this soon |
| DjMAX MONTANA 26.12.2010 | I've had to do this twice, and both times it was the plastic bushing (with 3 screws) that needed adjustment. I'm not exaggerating: even if it's a TINY bit off, it will not work properly. They all need to be tightened the same amount. I'm talking 1/10 of a turn with the screwdriver difference between the 3 (too tight or loose) and it won't work. When they're off by a bit, the wheel will sound like it's grinding, but when it's correct, the grinding goes away. I also adjusted the sensitivity screw until the LED was on all the time without me touching the wheel. After hearing how some of these adjustment screws fall off, I'm afraid of adjusting them any more. Good luck. Hope this helped |
| Chantal Harabedian 24.12.2010 | thanks man, i'm gonna do this. I didn't knew the second one, it's very instructive. thank a lot for your work Chris |
| Leeanna Ayla 24.12.2010 | Try these http://www.djranking s.com/2010/08/1...ers-jog-wheel/ http://www.djranking s.com/2010/10/0...l-vci-100-300/ |
| Chantal Harabedian 23.12.2010 | Hi guys I got my VCI 100 blk today; (firm 1,1 waiting for my firmware kit) I believe everything is ok, except one thing: the right jog wheel is smooth, and doesnt turns very fast. the left goes faster and makes some noise like friction + i believe the sensor doesnt works every time... I don't know which kind of prudct i must buy, and how much will it cost. can you guys just help me? thanks a lot |
| Jolyn Brunello 27.10.2010 | im having problems too.normally after a bit of use but i get no functionality from jogs in scratch mode,no pitch bend either,fader fx still works fine though so must be a bug somewhere.f/w 1.4 |
| Leeanna Ayla 20.10.2010 |
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
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| Tatum Ansaldo 20.10.2010 |
Originally Posted by photojojo
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| Donovan Mandy 20.10.2010 | Not yet... I'll see if I have time this weekend |
| Leeanna Ayla 20.10.2010 |
Originally Posted by mistertuckshop
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| Donovan Mandy 20.10.2010 | Oh also, fader fx mode is glitchy as well is scratch is also turned on. Fine if not. |
| Donovan Mandy 20.10.2010 | Yes, just tried it. Same results. The problem only occurs when scratch is turned on. (the vestax mapping is slightly different because I believe they use seek position so it doesn't 'scratch' through the track as such, just scrolls quickly, but I don't believe that's really relevant, the glitch still occurs when scratch button is turned on) |
| Leeanna Ayla 20.10.2010 |
Originally Posted by mistertuckshop
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| Donovan Mandy 20.10.2010 | Ok, so having done some testing with the default vci-100 mapping: When scrolling through the track with the top of the jog wheel ("jogseek" on default overlay not lit), it works fine. When scratching ("jogseek" lit up) it is jittery. When using the outside of the jog wheel in either case, it works fine. 1.3 firmware, mapping downloaded from here: http://help.vestax.co.jp/en/detail.p...id_page_url=56 |
| Leeanna Ayla 20.10.2010 | Another thing to try would be to delete any VCI mappings you have in there before importing. Not sure if this would help or not, but it's worth a try. Maybe try the basic mapping that comes with traktor Is everybody on 1.2.6? |
| Donovan Mandy 20.10.2010 | Haven't actually got round to opening up my vci-100 yet, been busy. Thought I should mention that I'm actually still on 1.3 firmware, FWIW. |
| Odilia Gatica 20.10.2010 | I loaded the mapping twice using the big import button and restarted Traktor (twice) each time. I will look into the last 3 questions (Scratch, faderFX, pitch bend) toevening and post my results. This is SOOO annoying! I paid a lot of money for this and it dont work properly |
| Leeanna Ayla 19.10.2010 | This really sounds like a mapping issue, but I have no clue what it is. Has everybody loaded the mapping twice using the big import button restarting Traktor each time? Does the jog act different when you turn scratch on and off? Does it work properly in fader FX mode? Does pitch bend work correctly? |
| Treasa Maffucci 18.10.2010 | ^^^ im sure this is a mapping issue, as i have upgraded my vci to 1.4, and using my own personal mapping, am having no problems with the right jog wheel compared to the left. hope this helps... |
| Fredia Sullens 18.10.2010 | Did anyone solve this problem (right wheel becomes unresponsive/jittery for scratching after upgrading to FW1.4) yet? Did physical jog wheel maintenance/lubricating the ground finger lead to any successes on this? I still have the feeling that this is a software/mapping issue...also: when the deck is playing, scratching works far worse than when the decks are in stop or pause mode. All opinions on this are more than welcome! |
| Odilia Gatica 15.10.2010 | Yeah mine was fine before updating to 1.4 firmware, and now the right jog plays up but the left is fine still. I have tried reverting to 3.5.2 mapping but the problem remains. |
| Fredia Sullens 14.10.2010 | Strange..same thing here: since the update to FW1.4, my right jog wheel has exactly the same problems as described above and shown in the video. Could it be that the fourfold resolution of 1.4 multiplies the detrimental effects of small amounts of dirt/dust? Or would it rather be a software/mapping issue? But then again: the left wheel works perfectly. |
| Odilia Gatica 12.10.2010 | Im getting the same jog wheel problem too |
| Donovan Mandy 10.10.2010 |
Originally Posted by photojojo
Just to clarify, by the way, the wheel itself rotates fine, not stiff or anything, it just doesn't seem to pick up when it's spinning a lot of the time. |
| Leeanna Ayla 09.10.2010 | Did you use the big import button to load the tsi? Sometimes it takes importing a couple of time restarting Traktor between each import to get it fully loaded. If that doesn;t work I would lubricate the finger that touches the jog post. |
| Donovan Mandy 09.10.2010 |
Originally Posted by photojojo
edit: oh and cheers for the LED link, ordered |
| Leeanna Ayla 09.10.2010 | Has the sensitivity changed in the mapping? Have you updated recently or anything? Was it ever working for you or was it like this wen you got it? Since it is second hand it might be worth it to go ahead and do the fader maintenance on it anyway. |
| Tatum Ansaldo 09.10.2010 | When it comes to LEDs I've done that mod (check my post 'jojo linked to) so I'm happy to give any advice you need. I used these LEDs from Maplin and they're pretty much identical to the originals. A lot of people seem to be having the cue LED problem, I guess vestax had a bad batch. |
| Donovan Mandy 09.10.2010 | Tried adjusting the sensitivity - even with it all the way up (so the red LED is still on even when I'm not touching the wheel) it still doesn't work right. Moving the jog wheel smoothly round only works for about half a rotation. |
| Leeanna Ayla 09.10.2010 | Have you checked the sensitivity on the back of the VCI? Even though the red LED comes on it could be the software needs a little more to work well. Be careful as those little plastic screws are fragile. You might need to lube the finger that contacts the post of the jog wheel inside the unit. I cover that here. http://www.djranking s.com/2010/08/1...ers-jog-wheel/ LED's (check the blog post he linked in there to) http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=18867 I'm believeing there's something else, but I can't jog (pun intended ) my memory right now. |
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