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Headphone Cueing while using Internal Soundcard?
Posted on: 25.01.2013 by Rubye Feicht
So I have a nice 5.1 system I'd like to use for outputs, and this is possible using my desktop's onboard 5.1 soundcard and making traktor use that, but I can't cue with my headphones now (using S2's soundcard). Is there a way to do this?

Thanks.
Awilda Boggie
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
Asio4All works fine, but is not quite as reliable or as low latency as a dedicated performance sound card.
indeed :/
Jeromy Bana
02.02.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
You CAN use 2 sound cards together with Traktor if you aggregate them, for Windows you'll need ASIO4ALL software to do this, whereas Mac users can do this with the Audio MIDI Setup within OSX.

It would probably be better to connect your 5.1 system to the RCA output of the S2 though.
That is a good Point That I had forgotten about.
In the Mac this is native because that is how my CDJ2000's are set up.
The windows download is a good point. I remember asking NI's tech support and they said no it was not possible a while back.
I'd love to know if this works.

Originally Posted by vanaema78
WUT? Music is mostly in stereo. If you have an usual 5.1 home setup then there is no difference between using 6 different channels then just the regular stereo.
its not about the "music". its about the latency generated by the 5.1 processor. even running music though it in just stereo CAN create a slight delay. this is not 100% of time on all gear . but it can be an issue.

if that is your your monitor and you're cueing in your headphones, you can notice the delay.
Rubye Feicht
25.01.2013
So I have a nice 5.1 system I'd like to use for outputs, and this is possible using my desktop's onboard 5.1 soundcard and making traktor use that, but I can't cue with my headphones now (using S2's soundcard). Is there a way to do this?

Thanks.
Awilda Boggie
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
Asio4All works fine, but is not quite as reliable or as low latency as a dedicated performance sound card.
indeed :/
Alphonso Deitchman
02.02.2013
Asio4All works fine, but is not quite as reliable or as low latency as a dedicated performance sound card. Also you won't be able to use timecode since the aggregate sound card is no longer a certified device.

A computer 5.1 system will probably not have its own processing system and typically relies on the computer for that, so the delay may not be so bad.
Jeromy Bana
02.02.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
You CAN use 2 sound cards together with Traktor if you aggregate them, for Windows you'll need ASIO4ALL software to do this, whereas Mac users can do this with the Audio MIDI Setup within OSX.

It would probably be better to connect your 5.1 system to the RCA output of the S2 though.
That is a good Point That I had forgotten about.
In the Mac this is native because that is how my CDJ2000's are set up.
The windows download is a good point. I remember asking NI's tech support and they said no it was not possible a while back.
I'd love to know if this works.

Originally Posted by vanaema78
WUT? Music is mostly in stereo. If you have an usual 5.1 home setup then there is no difference between using 6 different channels then just the regular stereo.
its not about the "music". its about the latency generated by the 5.1 processor. even running music though it in just stereo CAN create a slight delay. this is not 100% of time on all gear . but it can be an issue.

if that is your your monitor and you're cueing in your headphones, you can notice the delay.
Edwina Fagel
02.02.2013
WUT? Music is mostly in stereo. If you have an usual 5.1 home setup then there is no difference between using 6 different channels then just the regular stereo.
Alphonso Deitchman
02.02.2013
You CAN use 2 sound cards together with Traktor if you aggregate them, for Windows you'll need ASIO4ALL software to do this, whereas Mac users can do this with the Audio MIDI Setup within OSX.

It would probably be better to connect your 5.1 system to the RCA output of the S2 though.
Jeromy Bana
02.02.2013
In general, you should not run your DJ gear though 5.1 or 7.1 systems. You will find that in most of these systems, there will be latency from the front and rear speaker set even with sound fields turned off. additionally, the entire system might have slight latency that you will notice if you did have the headphones working...
some systems will allow A + B setups and not have as bad of a latency issue. if this is an on-board sound card, i doubt is is a as good as your S2's sound card. they have pretty nice DAC's.

To answer your original question though, no. I am almost 100% positive that you can NOT use 2 sound cards with traktor at once. I cant even use my s4 and a10 at the same time.
Awilda Boggie
27.01.2013
I'm not sure about traktor but temporarely you could use VDJ. (you need to map your s2 however to VDJ)
with VDJ somehow it's just easier to play the master via PC and cue via headphones (connected to your NI device)
Rubye Feicht
26.01.2013
If I do that, I wouldn't be able to use my full 5.1 system and thus not my nice sub either.
Harley Zitka
25.01.2013
You need to plug the speakers into the S2

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